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views-field-comment-body\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-content\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003E\u003Cstrong class=\u0022highlight-green\u0022\u003E@Braunm\u00fcller\u003C\/strong\u003E \u003Cem\u003E\u0022Ich habe \u00fcbrigens von gegenseitiger Unterst\u00fctzung, Subsidiarit\u00e4t und Solidarit\u00e4t in der Ehe gesprochen, nicht von waschlappigen Hausm\u00e4nnern. Das ist anscheinend Ihr Triggerpunkt.\u0022\u003C\/em\u003E\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EIch verstehe: M\u00e4nner sollen sich gef\u00e4lligst bei Kindererziehung und Haushalt voll reinh\u00e4ngen, aber wehe ihre Funktion als Dukaten schei\u00dfender Goldesel leidet darunter, dann sind es \u0022Waschlappen\u0022!?\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EMich erinnert das an eine kinderlose Frau, die sich \u00e4hnlich verablassend, wie Sie es tun, \u00fcber einen Kollegen auslie\u00df, der liebevoll die Erziehungszeit f\u00fcr die beiden Kinder \u00fcbernahm (weil seine Ehefrau aus institutionellen Gr\u00fcnden deutlich mehr verdiente). 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